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[ # ] Justin McCarthy resigns as Waterford boss
June 6th, 2008

Last night in Waterford Justin McCarthy resigned from his post as the county team’s hurling manager. In a statement he said

“Today I informed the chairman of Waterford County Board that I intend to step down as manager of the Waterford Senior hurling team.
I made the decision as I feel I no longer have the full support of all the players on the team.
I regret that my decision to step down has come in the middle of the championship season, however I feel it is the best course of action for everybody involved”

It had become apparent in the wake of the defeat to Clare that some of the players were unhappy with McCarthy. There were rumours that Eoin Kelly was dropped off the panel for disciplinary reasons and much was made of Dan Shanahan storming off the field and refusing to shake Justin’s hand when substituted. Apparently the players held a private meeting among themselves earlier in the week and so Justin resigned when he realised the game was up.

It’s tough on McCarthy given how much he’s done for Waterford, he took them to Munster titles and to the brink of All-Ireland glory. It wasn’t his fault the schedule conspired against them last year or the players choked when so near the finishing line or there’s not a decent goalkeeper to be found in the county. You could say that McCarthy has been there so long that his message and methods aren’t working anymore but the manager is always the easy scapegoat after failures and in this case it looks more like players getting too big for their boots.

The effort (or lack of it) from some of them in the game against Clare was a disgrace, Shanahan was so anonymous during the game he could have been taken off long before half time. Conceding 2-26 was pretty shocking for the backs too even without Ken McGrath and Eoin Murphy.

Anyway now they have to find a new man to lead them through the qualifiers. They have an easy start to those with a likely game against Antrim and with the usual initial surge from having a new man in charge they might fly on a bit further but it’s very hard to see them making the all ireland breakthrough this year now. Haven’t heard any rumours yet as to who might take over, realistically they need a big name and a strong character although they’ll probably settle on some easy choice guy from within the county.

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[ # 5173 ] Comment from Tones [June 6, 2008, 10:25 am]

Rumours this morning that they have asked Davy Fitzgerald to take over but this isn’t confirmed yet.

[ # 5175 ] Comment from Larry [June 6, 2008, 12:48 pm]

Yeah just saw that reported on setanta - - They have eddie o’connor and jim greene as second favourites, couldnt either of them being up to it

[ # 5176 ] Comment from Tones [June 6, 2008, 1:27 pm]

I cant see anyone actually wanting to manage them at this stage

[ # 5177 ] Comment from stevo [June 6, 2008, 2:17 pm]

Sorry but do not agree nor do alot of fellow waterford men. Justin is a great coach but tactically he is completely niave, was made to look a fool by Clare last weekend and could not compete. he gets alotr of credit for bringing succes to waterford, desreved to a dgree but a good manager would have taken them alot further. we had players who could have achieved some of this this anyway reagrdless who was in charge, he also had a lot of help from senior pros who have acted as peacemakers on a number of occasions over the years. wish him well and thank him for his contribution but its 2 years to late. the golden generation has passed with a better manager, a ger loughnane or the type with a strong personality players whoa re on their last legs now could have achieved a lot more.

[ # 5179 ] Comment from larry [June 6, 2008, 3:15 pm]

McCarthy ain’t perfect, by all accounts he’s not a great communicator, but his experience and knowledge make up for it. At some point the players have to deliver and it wasn’t McCarthy’s fault they shipped 5 goals to a mediocre limerick outfit last year or couldn’t get over cork the year before. It was the players who were made to look fools against clare for their lack of heart - as john mullane pointed out afterwards.

[ # 5180 ] Comment from the painter [June 6, 2008, 8:44 pm]

AS per usual Waterford have an excuse for failing on the big day. Justin McCarthy’s bad man management skills this year, the 3 games in 3 weeks last year. I was at the match last Sunday. The reason they were beaten was because they were beaten by the better team, FACT. Clare deserve credit for their display on the day. Justin McCarthy is a fine manager and did not deserve the treatment he got, to be stabbed in the back by his own players. The players he bought to 3 Munster titles and a National League.
The Waterford folks have very short memories, that was 4 titles in 7 year. Waterford had not won a title for nearly 40 years before Justin.
Ok he didnt get them the All Ireland they deserved but he gave Waterford some great days and you cant deny him that.
We all know how hard it is to break the stranglehold of the big 3. Gosh, how I miss the mid 90’s.

[ # 5189 ] Comment from donal coman [June 7, 2008, 12:49 pm]

justin mccarthy has being very badly treated by his (ex) players. how a bunch of lads that every neutral would normaly shout for could turn around and behave like this is beyond me. being a tipp supporter i know about hard times recently and have seen managers come and go but what waterford acheived was on a long term level. okay maybe justin could have said good luck after last season but to be pushed after one game is a disgrace. as much as it pains me to say john mullane was spot on when he said players needed to look at themselves after the clare game. is he the only honest one of them. good luck to justin because he is a true hurling legend and let him know the people of cashel will never forget him!!!!

[ # 5196 ] Comment from stevo [June 9, 2008, 9:25 am]

No one is blaming, Justin for the clare game, clare were hungry, superfit and determined, still think we could have beaten them if players tried properly though. despite only playing for 15 mins in the game with 10 mins to go was only 3 points in it. Fact is Justin did a great job for a number of years, but when we short numbers Eoin kelly was dropped, Brian Wall and James Murray omitted entirely, Tom Feeny should have been organising backs in Kens absence. All tactical decisions were made wrong. for a few years his tactic of switching forwards around worked great but once othe mangers came up with a system to deal with that he had no ideas. As i said no one deputes he has good coaching ability but he is completely incapable of reacting to changes in a game, w have seen it year after year after year and players performances have hidden his inadequacies. Clare had a simple tactic of sucking players into the middle of the park and our lads fell for it and as a result clare picked up easy scores. Everyone in the ground recognised it execpt Justin and his team, another managerw ould have changed things around to counter, his answer…come on, try harder. ‘inspirational words.’ The simple story is if players don’t want you & fans dont want you walk away, everyone was hoping he would do it before now, but he didn’t so he was pushed. No one disputes he has contributed but not much in the last few years, even his training sessions are stale at this point according to the players. Anyone who criticises his dismissal should take this into account, we gave im 7 years, how many other boards can say they have backed any manager that long?

[ # 5197 ] Comment from Tones [June 9, 2008, 9:57 am]

Sorry but dont you think that the bad display against Clare should be blamed on the players and definitely not the management theres only so much they can do its up to the players after that.

[ # 5198 ] Comment from stevo [June 9, 2008, 10:08 am]

Tones agree alot of players did not seem to be trying and blame ultimately lays on their doorstep, but it is like the Steve Staunton factor. if you are constantly sent out without a game plan against well organised teams, frustration can boil over. Believe firmly certain players liked the idea of a back door route. we have an older team a nd a slower bulid up with tougher finish might be preferable to tough munster and wait till semis/quarters.Antrim + Wexford/Dublin is preferable to Limerick + Cork/Tipp even if you end up with potentially a tougher game after, role on the quarters, we’ll still be heavily involved in the shake up. Not all justins fault but it had reached its end.

[ # 5202 ] Comment from Tones [June 9, 2008, 9:43 pm]

Fitzy has been named as Waterford boss, I just cant believe it!!

[ # 5205 ] Comment from stevo [June 10, 2008, 9:04 am]

Had me very worried but saw 2 things that are very smart moves, 1) appointed only till end of season at which point both parties can decide if want to continue
2)and even more importantly, peter quelly has been appointed as a selector to assist him, hopefully fitzy has sense to listen to what im sure will be good advice from a man who know Waterford hurling insdide out. gonna be an interesting year

[ # 5212 ] Comment from larry [June 11, 2008, 9:04 am]

he’ll get them fired up anyway - if he doesnt get himself suspended in the process! no idea what he’s like tactically, i mean he done well with LIT but then he had Joe Canning there. If he can the keeper full of confidence and sort out the full back line they’ll be well back in it

[ # 5222 ] Comment from the painter [June 12, 2008, 10:28 pm]

And Eoin Kelly

[ # 16983 ] Comment from [May 31, 2009, 10:19 pm]

Can’t wait for June 14th now!!!

Will Justin have his revenge, or will Waterford prove why they were right to get rid of him?

We miss Justin for sure, he’s part of Waterford GAA history now, but that won’t affect the game in 2 weeks time!

Woo Hoo!

[ # 17182 ] Comment from donal coman [June 12, 2009, 8:25 am]

a year on and the time is here to see if justin can get his revenge? even though i support neither limerick or waterford im going to go to thurles to watch this one. these teams always produce a goal fest and with their league form being fairly similar i can see a tight and fairly tough encounter being produced. im leaning towards limerick for justin’s sake alone but i also have an inkling of a draw about this one.the big question sunday is if dan the man can reclaim his form of 2007 or was his 2008 form a clear indication of what’s in store for 2009? time will tell!

[ # 17184 ] Comment from [June 12, 2009, 9:03 am]

Dan is not starting, Nagle is on instead… with ken in centre forward and prendergast on the other side.

I don’t think it’s fair to judge the Waterford lads for what happened with Justin… there were no complaints from Justin when leaving so I am sure that whatever happened it was for a good reason.

We all really liked Justin down here but I don’t know if he was the man to bring us over the finish line.

Can’t wait for Sunday now!

[ # 17186 ] Comment from Barry [June 12, 2009, 10:42 am]

Should be a good match alright.
Really hard to call, so I wont bother

[ # 17188 ] Comment from stevo [June 12, 2009, 12:05 pm]

think conditions will play a big part, expectiong limerick to be very motivated and physical, poor conditions might give them the edge they need to get accross the line, think it is 50-50 game but think we should edge it, will definetly come down to last five mins so fitness could have abig part to play, wasnot impressed withour fitness levels in league, hoing the boys have stepped up training

[ # 17189 ] Comment from stevo [June 12, 2009, 12:05 pm]

think conditions will play a big part, expectiong limerick to be very motivated and physical, poor conditions might give them the edge they need to get accross the line, think it is 50-50 game but think we should edge it, will definetly come down to last five mins so fitness could have abig part to play, was not impressed withour fitness levels in league, hoping the boys have stepped up thier training

[ # 17192 ] Comment from Barry [June 12, 2009, 1:32 pm]

I suppose you’d expect Waterford to have the scoring edge with ken mcgrath, eoin kelly and mullane… based on that i’ll go for them.

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